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PostSubject: Re: This video is raw footage of Socom 4 media day   Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:16 am

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I will try it.... BUt The fact is that Lobbies are always better than match making. It's the reason why the PC games all have it.

And when a PC game doesn't have lobbies (like MW2), an entire community boycotted.

The benifits of lobbies is endless. A perfect game would have matchmaking & lobbies. Warhawk did it. At least let people browse custom games.

matchmaking promotes quitting & complete disregard for the whole system. On CoD, in 1 game of S&D, I'll play 3 different teams. That's cause the whole team of 6 aborted, then new players joined, they aborted, repeat, re-rinse...

Anyways, I jsut want to make that clear. I may enjoy this new game, but it's not up to SOCOM standards & It's "system" is by no means perfcect or even the "preferred". It's simply the ONLY 3rd person game with non-respawn modes. And it looks a little better than confrontaiton, & I played that garbage for a fn year...


I'll admit, the footage didn't look too bad. Reminded me of MW2 3rd person. IT's obviously a FPS system ( MAG). They just pulled the camera back. But now we can rely on the gun play being pretty good. Shooting over ralings & out windows shoudl bedecent. ADS would solve that. But it will get boring very fast if these new games modes don't turn out to be as good as the old ones...

And that's pretty tough. Breach was the greatest mode I've ever played. Period. I want Sujo, Enowapi, Sandstorm, & Last Bastion... All in a map pack... ONLY breach mode.

Then 3 months later, release an escort/extract map pack. With all the classic S1/S2 DG, Fishhook, Guidence, FoxHunt...MIXER! ah i gotta control myself, goodnite yall...

True that man. Dunham said if we still don't like their system after we play the game then they will look in to it. I guess all we can do is hold hime to his word.


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PostSubject: Re: This video is raw footage of Socom 4 media day   Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:30 am

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The thing is though, with the way the "hardcores" have been bitching there is no way that Socom could continue as a franchise. Zipper is a business and a business needs to make money. You guys can complain about its "not a real socom" as much as you want but remember at the end of the day you guys spend $100 max. The market for those "COD losers" is huge. And COD changed the way online shooters play, just like Socom did back on ps2. This can no longer be a niche game for it to survive. SO if your really a hardcore, get the game, support the game, and ask for the changes you want. A ton of what you guys asked for is going to be implemented by the time it launches. That list you have written, I can unofficially say that half is done. The only thing you are definitely not gonna get is UCRR, but try the new system and see what it has to offer.

I doubt the entire list will be addressed. I have said more than once, I know games evolve and change, they have to I get that, BUT and this is a big BUT.... THEY SHOULD KEEP THE MODES THE HARDCORE PLAYERS WANT AS OPTIONS!!!!

I understand completely they want to make money who doesn't. That isn't what we are "bitching" about. We the hard core socom community are the people that MADE SOCOM WHAT IT IS TODAY. They should cater to us and add options to bring other players in.

that makes the most sense to me. But, again I don't see much of that list making it in before release Zipper doesn't give a shit guys.


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PostSubject: Re: This video is raw footage of Socom 4 media day   Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:06 am

Im telling you that they have addressed a decent amount of the issues. The game modes will come with time but take a look at the secret mode when you guys get a chance to. Zipper gives a shit man, thats why they put classic mode in there. The lobby system is just a different way of doing things. BTW there are UCR, they just are unranked. They're working on what they can do without an overhaul of code. The game is addicting, trust me. Try it an you'll see. It gives you a sense of competition that you could never get from the mindless drone killing that shooters seem to promote these days.
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PostSubject: Re: This video is raw footage of Socom 4 media day   Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:30 am

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Im telling you that they have addressed a decent amount of the issues. The game modes will come with time but take a look at the secret mode when you guys get a chance to. Zipper gives a shit man, thats why they put classic mode in there. The lobby system is just a different way of doing things. BTW there are UCR, they just are unranked. They're working on what they can do without an overhaul of code. The game is addicting, trust me. Try it an you'll see. It gives you a sense of competition that you could never get from the mindless drone killing that shooters seem to promote these days.
With out Demo my Clan is not going to like this game out the box, it may play great, look great, but with out Demo this game is not gonna make any ol school fan happy.

On another note, I do see alot of people crying about respawn in Socom 4. Hello, respawn has always been a big part of Socom, it's just ranked now and the more I think about it, the more I am saying who cares, because people have always played respawn to warm up and so forth, so why not make it ranked who cares.. Plus this will keep the kids out Classic mode so I am all for it now that I have had time to put it in perspective. It's not a big deal, as long as there is a mode that keeps it Socom I am ok with it.


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PostSubject: Re: This video is raw footage of Socom 4 media day   Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:27 pm

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Im telling you that they have addressed a decent amount of the issues. The game modes will come with time but take a look at the secret mode when you guys get a chance to. Zipper gives a shit man, thats why they put classic mode in there. The lobby system is just a different way of doing things. BTW there are UCR, they just are unranked. They're working on what they can do without an overhaul of code. The game is addicting, trust me. Try it an you'll see. It gives you a sense of competition that you could never get from the mindless drone killing that shooters seem to promote these days.


I get your points guy I do but hurt locker defuse mode is not demo mode. 1 guy on 1 team sent to defuse a bomb that is ticking already is not the same as a bomb placed in the middle of the map that either team can pick up and plant. It sounds like a decent mode but it's not demo.

I doubt there will be pistols
I doubt they will do anything about the camera (they've said they won't)
I doubt very much they will add grenade arc
I am almost positive they won't add gun hot

these are just a few things that make socom feel like socom and I am pretty sure that Zipper will not address these issues.


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PostSubject: Re: This video is raw footage of Socom 4 media day   Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:31 pm

No pistols and retarded camera ruins the game.camera alone messes the whole game constantly. Lack of socom game modes means I wont buy it out the box.ill get it on ebay used if they ever put socom modes in.if they are free.if they charge then f_ _ _ them. Ragin pheonix is a zipper dev
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PostSubject: Re: This video is raw footage of Socom 4 media day   Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:16 pm

LMAO I am no zipper dev trust me. Just someone with an inside track is all. Who said the camera definitely wont be fixed? and pistols is not really that big of a deal. Once beta comes around people will be able to make up their mind.
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PostSubject: Re: This video is raw footage of Socom 4 media day   Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:51 pm

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LMAO I am no zipper dev trust me. Just someone with an inside track is all. Who said the camera definitely wont be fixed? and pistols is not really that big of a deal. Once beta comes around people will be able to make up their mind.

here is what was posted about the camera guy.

Question from PAs_MAKO-30 "Hey Roper or Smash,
If you read this, can you chime in about the possibility of moving the camera back a little? It seems to be a concern for some of the CD participants as well."

Dunham: "For launch day? More likely not. One day in the future after that? Well that's another story..."

Dunham's answer does not cut it guy, that doesn't tell us they will ever address it. He is masking the issues we bring to him with ambiguity.

Stupid bullshit man. I can't see why you are sticking up for Zipper. I understand keeping an open mind, I have until I read most of the posting by Dunham
and Roper. They know they are going to make money no matter what so why give the hardcore fans any "real" socom modes or change the game at all.

ANSWER: They won't, it will cost too much time and money and they have already been in dev too long for Sony to let them make the changes needed.

I can see your points I just think keeping an open mind with Zipper at this point doesn't mean you actually keep an open mind, it now means you drop trow
and grab your ankles cause you're going to get what they give you, tailored to your liking or not.


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PostSubject: Re: This video is raw footage of Socom 4 media day   Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:30 am

They have changed the view fyi but dont quote me on it. Also you can't expect them to release that level of info, especially if people are excited for that change to happen, on the forums. People read text and think they know everything about the game and how it plays. Im not blindly sticking up for Zipper. Ive been here since Socom 1 just like everyone else that claims to be but Ive played Socom 4. I couldn't put it down, and the last time I couldnt put a game down was Socom 2. CoD has no appeal, MAG gets repetitive, Killzone is just starting to make a name. But when you can play Socom 4 you get the feel of a game thats been there, done that. Refined and amazingly addictive. Alot of people are swayed by forum spammers that haven't even seen the game themselves. Try it out, you'll see how good it really is.
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PostSubject: Re: This video is raw footage of Socom 4 media day   Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:48 am

Where did you play it?


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PostSubject: Re: This video is raw footage of Socom 4 media day   Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:49 am

Can't specifically say but there was a private showing for certain old friends lets just say with newer code than the 18 got to play.
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PostSubject: Re: This video is raw footage of Socom 4 media day   Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:59 am

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They have changed the view fyi but dont quote me on it. Also you can't expect them to release that level of info, especially if people are excited for that change to happen, on the forums. People read text and think they know everything about the game and how it plays. Im not blindly sticking up for Zipper. Ive been here since Socom 1 just like everyone else that claims to be but Ive played Socom 4. I couldn't put it down, and the last time I couldnt put a game down was Socom 2. CoD has no appeal, MAG gets repetitive, Killzone is just starting to make a name. But when you can play Socom 4 you get the feel of a game thats been there, done that. Refined and amazingly addictive. Alot of people are swayed by forum spammers that haven't even seen the game themselves. Try it out, you'll see how good it really is.

One person telling me to play it first before I decide. I got to play the E3 version and was impressed by the single player campaign aspects. I still haven't tried multiplayer but I will not purchase a $65 game unless I know I will like it. If they don't put out a multiplayer demo for it that I can try it out first then this one is going by the wayside for me.


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PostSubject: Re: This video is raw footage of Socom 4 media day   Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:04 pm

Igneous. Dont worry about unsocom4. We will be busy with mcd. Socom 1and2. And then brink maybe after were sick of brink we can get nonsocom 4 used off glyde or ebay. If theres socom game modes in it and etags are gone.
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PostSubject: Re: This video is raw footage of Socom 4 media day   Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:12 pm

Give it a rest me boy'o.


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PostSubject: Re: This video is raw footage of Socom 4 media day   Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:53 pm

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Give it a rest me boy'o.

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PostSubject: Re: This video is raw footage of Socom 4 media day   Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:23 am

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Give it a rest me boy'o.
what?

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PostSubject: Re: This video is raw footage of Socom 4 media day   Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:05 pm

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Igneous. Dont worry about unsocom4. We will be busy with mcd. Socom 1and2. And then brink maybe after were sick of brink we can get nonsocom 4 used off glyde or ebay. If theres socom game modes in it and etags are gone.
I concur Ditch.


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PostSubject: Re: This video is raw footage of Socom 4 media day   Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:06 pm

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Give it a rest me boy'o.
Ditch was talking to me Name-Less, so put your keyboard away and quit trollin for posts guy. mmmm k


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