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Dont buy UNsocom 4
Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:24 am
It will only encourage tjem to make another one just like it. At least cod stays true to its roots and fans
RaginPhoenixJESTER
- Join date : 2011-01-19
Re: Dont buy UNsocom 4
Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:40 am
?? Cod really didn't stay true to its fans at all. They released Cod 5 in between 4 and 6 that went back to WW2 for no reason. They completely changed the game with Black Ops and despite is being a success you have to realize it was a "Revamp" that achieved success.
ChainFire420BOOMER
- Join date : 2011-01-16
Age : 35
Re: Dont buy UNsocom 4
Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:54 am
The core of the gameplay never changes though. The way the games play (CoD4, MW2, BlOps) all play the same, even in comparison to the Classic CoD games. Black Ops isnt much different from the other CoDs at all, it just has some cool customization options that I hope carries over to all future CoDs. MW2 with Black Ops camo/red dots/emblems would be AWESOME.
- RaginPhoenixJESTER
- Join date : 2011-01-19
Re: Dont buy UNsocom 4
Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:57 am
I completely disagree with you Chain. Black Ops completely changed the core mechanics of the game. If you mean its the same because its a "first person shooter with perks and leveling up" then that's the same as saying Socom 4 is the same because it's a "first person shooter with round based games".
Differences:
Dedicated spawn points vs. random spawn points
Wayyy more chaos in Black Ops
Guns are unlocked by level and by currency
Different Killstreaks
Completely different camera
Completely different animations (looks way more cartoony)
Guns have become generic
No teamwork at all now
Maps are rather poor
Differences:
Dedicated spawn points vs. random spawn points
Wayyy more chaos in Black Ops
Guns are unlocked by level and by currency
Different Killstreaks
Completely different camera
Completely different animations (looks way more cartoony)
Guns have become generic
No teamwork at all now
Maps are rather poor
- ChainFire420BOOMER
- Join date : 2011-01-16
Age : 35
Re: Dont buy UNsocom 4
Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:58 am
RaginPhoenix wrote:I completely disagree with you Chain. Black Ops completely changed the core mechanics of the game. If you mean its the same because its a "first person shooter with perks and leveling up" then that's the same as saying Socom 4 is the same because it's a "first person shooter with round based games".
Differences:
Dedicated spawn points vs. random spawn points Only slightly, spawns still switch constantly mostly due to small maps
Wayyy more chaos in Black Ops Again, small maps
Guns are unlocked by level and by currency Always went by level, currency is just testing a new economy system
Different Killstreaks These are always changing per game. The originals are always still there though
Completely different camera Different in what way?
Completely different animations (looks way more cartoony) They character mods look fine, cooler even
Guns have become generic Game is based in Cold War era (its not a Modern Warfare game)
No teamwork at all now Never was
Maps are rather poor Again, small maps, but i agree cause I don't like tiny maps
Most of those things are just normal changes where new are added for more varied gameplay. You have to take into account the time the game takes place in, though, cause its not a Modern Warfare game. The weapons/killstreaks/character models are set in the Cold War era, thats why they are different. The gameplay hasn't changed at all, The currency system I assume they felt they needed because of all the other things you can unlock in this game, primarily dealing with the player Card. But I will say, that i feel that they should have gone half and half -- use the unlock system for Player Card stuff, and use the currency system for weapons/attachments/gear/etc. like MAG did.
- RaginPhoenixJESTER
- Join date : 2011-01-19
Re: Dont buy UNsocom 4
Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:09 am
ChainFire420 wrote:RaginPhoenix wrote:I completely disagree with you Chain. Black Ops completely changed the core mechanics of the game. If you mean its the same because its a "first person shooter with perks and leveling up" then that's the same as saying Socom 4 is the same because it's a "first person shooter with round based games".
Differences:
Dedicated spawn points vs. random spawn points Only slightly, spawns still switch constantly mostly due to small maps
Wayyy more chaos in Black Ops Again, small maps
Guns are unlocked by level and by currency Always went by level, currency is just testing a new economy system
Different Killstreaks These are always changing per game. The originals are always still there though
Completely different camera Different in what way?
Completely different animations (looks way more cartoony) They character mods look fine, cooler even
Guns have become generic Game is based in Cold War era (its not a Modern Warfare game)
No teamwork at all now Never was
Maps are rather poor Again, small maps, but i agree cause I don't like tiny maps
I disagree about the spawns. Black Ops has random spawning to the point where two opposing players can spawn in the same spot with a 5 seconds delay. Black Ops has truly random spawning.
Killstreaks are really different in Black Ops. There really is no incentive to kill more than 15 in a row. And I think some of the killstreaks are stupid (personal opinion)
The game really is cartoony. The running animations, the dying animations, the way enemies look. All seems a bit toony to me.
MAPS are retarded. Small and just promotes the whole chaotic feel.
Just because its based on the Cold war era doesn't mean the guns have to feel generic. It feels like AR -option 1 or 2, etc.
SNIPING IS GONE. Sniping is broken. Plain and simple.
Can you make a list of how it stayed true to its Modern Warfare roots that isn't just "it has killstreaks" etc.
It had some really nice gimmicks, betting and stuff but overall it really wasn't enough to get me to keep the game. I power traded that sucker in for Killzone 3.
- ChainFire420BOOMER
- Join date : 2011-01-16
Age : 35
Re: Dont buy UNsocom 4
Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:25 am
RaginPhoenix wrote:ChainFire420 wrote:RaginPhoenix wrote:I completely disagree with you Chain. Black Ops completely changed the core mechanics of the game. If you mean its the same because its a "first person shooter with perks and leveling up" then that's the same as saying Socom 4 is the same because it's a "first person shooter with round based games".
Differences:
Dedicated spawn points vs. random spawn points Only slightly, spawns still switch constantly mostly due to small maps
Wayyy more chaos in Black Ops Again, small maps
Guns are unlocked by level and by currency Always went by level, currency is just testing a new economy system
Different Killstreaks These are always changing per game. The originals are always still there though
Completely different camera Different in what way?
Completely different animations (looks way more cartoony) They character mods look fine, cooler even
Guns have become generic Game is based in Cold War era (its not a Modern Warfare game)
No teamwork at all now Never was
Maps are rather poor Again, small maps, but i agree cause I don't like tiny maps
Can you make a list of how it stayed true to its Modern Warfare roots that isn't just "it has killstreaks" etc.
Its not Modern Warfare.
The Modern Warfare games are made by Infinity Ward.
World at War and Black Ops are done by Treyarch.
Therein lie some obvious differences.
Black Ops does not have random spawns. CoD maps have a "spawn area" on each side of the map, and that's where you will primarily spawn if there are no enemies in your spawn. If enemies are in or around your spawn, your spawn switches to the one on the other side of the map. If enemies are (rarely) in both spawn, it puts you in a more random location, hopefully clear of enemies for a moment. On release, the game had bugs causing you and enemes to spawn right next to each other and it was really bad for a while, but that was patched a while back and has only in rare instances been an issue.
Its pretty much the same with the Modern Warfare games, excpet those maps were bigger so the "spawn issues" are much better taken care of.
The weapons are far from generic, each gun acts very differently and I've struggled to find combinations that for my playing style (i play more tactically, so these extra small maps are struggle for me. I especially hate Nuketown and the Firing Range). Believe it or not, my fav gun in that game is the FAL gun, single-shot baby!
NAME-LESSKAHUNA
- Join date : 2010-09-28
Re: Dont buy UNsocom 4
Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:38 am
DITCH wrote:Ill never buy UNsocom 4.. Sad to see the epitome of hard core games come to an end. Lets hope the servers on the originals and last socom- confrontation stay up many more years.
They won't. This is how I see it. People get fed up with SOCOM 4, go back to CON, but CON is infested with codes. They hear that S2 has cleaner servers. The servers "crash" from too many people on servers that have no maintenance.
They better have a real Socom on PSP2. That would be a dream for me. That or Socom HD on it. My favorite game that I can take anywhere with me. Stuck at the dentist? It's ok, I'll just play Socom 2 while I wait.
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