Re: Primaries and Secondaries

Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:25 pm

I can deal with only being able to use a Shotty as a secondary. That would even up the playing field.

Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:53 pm

NAME-LESS wrote:

DITCH wrote:If they refuse to add pistols. Or are too incompetent. I think the closest they can do is : in classic mode-lock in submachine guns as your secondary and lock them on single shot.

I can't agree with this. SMG are a vital component of warfare and should never be locked away like that. A lot of people use SMGs only and that would be wrong to take that away from someone because it makes you happy.

I think pistols could be held in teh same ragard. I think they are vital components of warfare & should never be locked away.

At this point, it appears that we all should just get used to dual primarys. Hope for pistols in Socom 5 or (crosses fingers) S2HD

Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:07 pm

JoeyRocker wrote:

NAME-LESS wrote:

DITCH wrote:If they refuse to add pistols. Or are too incompetent. I think the closest they can do is : in classic mode-lock in submachine guns as your secondary and lock them on single shot.

I can't agree with this. SMG are a vital component of warfare and should never be locked away like that. A lot of people use SMGs only and that would be wrong to take that away from someone because it makes you happy.

I think pistols could be held in teh same ragard. I think they are vital components of warfare & should never be locked away.

At this point, it appears that we all should just get used to dual primarys. Hope for pistols in Socom 5 or (crosses fingers) S2HD

The difference between pistols and SMGs is that, pistols aren't being locked away because they aren't in the game.

Never give up.

Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:35 pm

NAME-LESS wrote:

Sometimes they have shotguns on their sides as a side-arm . Auto shotguns (the USAS) are already confirmed and they aren't going anywhere, as much as I hate them.

I just hope they weren't dumb enough to only give one team an auto again.

Yea, but my point is that even when they have shottys as a secondary, they still and will ALWAYS have a pistol with them.

And hopefully Zipper is smart enough to not give only one team some kind of auto-shotty. But at the same time, this is the company that gave Terrorists Model 18s and .50 Desert Eagles when the SEALs only had 9mms, 226s, and Mark .23s...so yea, don't be surprised. And at the same SAME time, let's hope the MGs aren't monstrous run n' gun destroyers like they did in MAG, just about voiding all other weapons. Typing this, I realize Zipper has a history of horribly unbalancing the weapons on teams...in every game they've ever made.

So, i guess the real question is, what have they over-powered this time that will piss off the community (those that are left, that is).

**Side note: Also, is this still a US Navy SEALs game? Are our protagonists an actual SEAL team still? or have they deviated from that as well?

Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:41 pm

Holy fuck, i was looking into that Navy SEAL thing at the bottom of my last post....there's a quiz on the Socom.com website. If you're on the Socom 4 part of the site and click "Game Info" on the top left, you get a bit of info on the game and theres a Poll and a quiz question at the bottom.

Fuck me, there's only one Navy SEAL in the squad...Dion Wells. For gods sake, the OpsCom isn't a Navy SEAL!!!

So, there really is nothing "SOCOM US NAVY SEALs" in this game....

EDIT: The Poll question and Quiz question change when refreshing the page...
EDIT2: As it turns out, ERIC SCHWEITZER is also a US Navy SEAL. So in a 5-man squad, there are only 2 SEALs in the US NAvy SEALs game...

Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:45 pm

ChainFire420 wrote:

NAME-LESS wrote:

Sometimes they have shotguns on their sides as a side-arm . Auto shotguns (the USAS) are already confirmed and they aren't going anywhere, as much as I hate them.

I just hope they weren't dumb enough to only give one team an auto again.

Yea, but my point is that even when they have shottys as a secondary, they still and will ALWAYS have a pistol with them.

And hopefully Zipper is smart enough to not give only one team some kind of auto-shotty. But at the same time, this is the company that gave Terrorists Model 18s and .50 Desert Eagles when the SEALs only had 9mms, 226s, and Mark .23s...so yea, don't be surprised. And at the same SAME time, let's hope the MGs aren't monstrous run n' gun destroyers like they did in MAG, just about voiding all other weapons. Typing this, I realize Zipper has a history of horribly unbalancing the weapons on teams...in every game they've ever made.

So, i guess the real question is, what have they over-powered this time that will piss off the community (those that are left, that is).

**Side note: Also, is this still a US Navy SEALs game? Are our protagonists an actual SEAL team still? or have they deviated from that as well?

They also gave the terrorists the 552SD when the only people equipped with a 552SD offline were the Spetnaz, they were on the SEAL time.

Machine Guns should be EXTREMELY lethal when stationary. When moving they should be very hard to use, but still good in a CQC battle, just not in sustained fire.

Half your team in S4 will be SEALs (excluding OPSCOM, why a NATO officer is commanding Navy SEALs and Korean 707's I have no idea) and half will be Korean, not to different then when you had Spetnaz, SAS or Polish guys on your team.

It is still Navy SEALs, but only in America. Everywhere else it is Special Forces. If you watch the french video you will clearly see the beret on Wells head and the boonie hat Shweiltzer's(?) head. As well as a FAMAS on one of their backs.

As much as I would like to have pistols, I would much rather have shotguns on everybody's backs than assault rifles.

Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:30 pm

I have seen this said on the forums and I also think 90 percent of everyone will be packing a sniper rifle as primary along with an assault rifle as second. Why wouldn't you do this, just camp the 1st minute of the round and pop off rushers, then switch to your Assault rifle and run and gun. Just saying, I want Phenom on my side with a sniper rifle, because I know what you can do with one.

Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:18 pm

PAUL-AWOL- wrote:I have seen this said on the forums and I also think 90 percent of everyone will be packing a sniper rifle as primary along with an assault rifle as second. Why wouldn't you do this, just camp the 1st minute of the round and pop off rushers, then switch to your Assault rifle and run and gun. Just saying, I want Phenom on my side with a sniper rifle, because I know what you can do with one.

Wow, yea, thats totally true. Its a terrifying concept.